Should drug industry staff teach students?
As therapeutics departments in medical schools close, Rebecca Coombes hears how the drug industry saw an opportunity
Drug company staff are providing direct teaching to UK undergraduate medical students, a model that the industry hopes can
be developed to forge valuable links with trainee doctors. The move comes as many medical schools are moving investment away
from clinical pharmacology to concentrate on research.
Pfizer has a contract to deliver a module to undergraduates at Brighton and Sussex Medical School, a new school that does
not have a clinical pharmacology department. Pfizer does not charge for its services, and students travel to the company’s
headquarters in Walton Oaks, Surrey, for a series of seminars with staff.
More receptive to industry
The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry (ABPI) is also delivering talks to undergraduates at several medical
schools. Richard Tiner, its medical director. He believes that UK medical academics were becoming more receptive to offers
of help from the industry.
“Three to four years ago we weren’t doing anything like this. Last month we had two such talks in a week,” he said. “Clinical
pharmacology teaching is diminishing in medical schools—many don’t have clinical pharmacologists on the staff. There is a
realisation that industry has expertise in certain areas that may not be available in all of the medical schools in the UK.”
Pfizer says that its experience with Brighton and Sussex has been successful. Joanna Hahn, a medical manager at the company,
who runs the course, said it was a student selected component that runs half a day a week over two months. The module is ungraded,
although students need to pass it to get their overall degree. The course covers topics from drug discovery through to marketing.
The company’s external affairs staff also address students on its “stakeholder strategy,” which includes relationships with
patients’ groups. Ms Hahn said the sessions with students were very interactive and that she was sensitive to the need to
be objective.
Not promotional
“It is not promotional in any way, shape, or form,” she said. “When students first started coming here I made sure drinks
were available and sometimes lunch. But I stopped that because it reinforced the perception of free lunches.
“We are not trying to hide anything. If anything comes up in the news we discuss it [and] find the right people to speak about
it.” Brighton and Sussex offered Pfizer £500 (€510; $720) to deliver the course, but the company declined the fee.
Ms Hahn said, “The main thing we get out of this is the opportunity to interact with the junior doctors of tomorrow. We get
to see how we are perceived in the outside world and to give some information. Students are a little bit sceptical at first.
But we have good quality conversations. Initially we had students coming through saying, ‘You aren’t doing enough in developing
countries.’ The latest lot of students have said, ‘We want to make our own minds up.’”
Martin Kendall, senior medical adviser to the British National Formulary and emeritus professor, clinical pharmacology, at
the University of Birmingham, said it was “a major indictment” that many medical schools no longer had a proper department
of therapeutics. He was not surprised to see companies such as Pfizer moving in to fill the gap.
It is worth remembering that 6.5% of patients admitted to hospital have adverse reactions to drugs. It is not just the newer
medical schools, but the older ones too, who have no identified department of therapeutics. This is actually serious, a major
indictment.
“Medical schools are competing in terms of research output and are judged by the amount of money they raise for research and
whether they are published in high quality journals. If you were a dean and want to be successful, what you need to do is
build up research and reduce subjects such as psychiatry, elderly care, and therapeutics.
“If it means that Pfizer develops a module to teach medical students, that’s not necessarily a bad thing. No doubt people
in the drug industry will have expertise and the potential to teach students about aspects of drug development.”
Maintaining objectivity
However, Professor Kendall was concerned about the difficulties of maintaining objectivity in teaching. If a company was giving
a lecture on the management of angina, he said, there would be a clear risk of giving preference to their own drugs.
“I’d say it is OK as long as it is properly monitored,” he said. “If a module is put on by Pfizer, for example, it does need
to be monitored by an external examiner or by, for example, the clinical committee of the British Pharmacological Society.”
“If the industry does a good job then the medical student will look on that company as a friend. It’s not active marketing
but building up a reputation as coherent scientists.”
Richard Tiner of the APBI said that any teaching offered by companies was governed by the industry’s own code of practice.
“This teaching is coming from medics working in the pharmaceutical industry. Anything we do is covered by the ABPI code of
practice. We are not able to promote specific medicines. These are general talks rather than about specific medicines. Usually
there is a member of [faculty] staff present.”
First published in the BMJ (2009;338:a3179).
See a selection of rapid responses to this article at http://student.bmj.com/issues/09/03/news/86.php.
Rebecca Coombes associate editor London
Student BMJ 2009;17:84 | March
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A worrying development
I hope that the students involved are intelligent enough to take the information given by the drug companies with the proverbial
pinch of salt. Unfortunately, this may leave them lacking in basic knowledge and unclear about what information is impartial
and what has a bias. Such ambiguity can serve only to make their first few months at work even more frightening and confusing
than they already are.
Alexandra J Obee, foundation year 1 doctor in colorectal surgery, University of Birmingham NHS Foundation Trust, Birmingham B29 6JD
Competing interests: None declared.
Degradation of student teaching
Surely the most suitable people to train medical students in this task are those with direct experience of it: other doctors
and clinical pharmacists.
Although Ms Hahn claims that the course offered by Pfizer is “not promotional” it is almost impossible for it to be free from
bias. The very fact that it is delivered away from the medical school, at Pfizer’s headquarters will influence students. Those
delivering the teaching all have vested interests in promoting the company’s products and are unlikely to give equal “air
time” to drugs produced by other companies that perform the same function. There are clear benefits to the company and few
for the students, who are taken even further from the patient’s bedside than the medical school lecture theatre, further separating
theory and practice.
Amy L Blake, foundation year 2 public health, Warwick Medical School, Coventry CV4 7AL
Competing interests: None declared.
Sublime to the ridiculous
I was lucky enough to be taught therapeutics by Professor Martin Kendall, senior advisor to the British National Formulary, as a medical student and remember him advising us on how to respond when meeting drug reps as qualified doctors. He counselled
that we accept the pen, return the smile, and ignore the information.
Charles W Dixon, consultant psychiatrist, Wonford House Hospital, Exeter EX2 5AF
Competing interests: None declared.
A lesson in objectivity
In the United States, eight universities have chosen to ban any interaction between pharmaceutical companies and their students.1 This comes in response to this obvious conflict and the evidence that questions the validity of pharmaceutical marketing
information.2 Why is it then that we in the United Kingdom have chosen an entirely opposite direction?
Patrick James Howlett, medical student, University of Bristol
Competing interests: None declared.
Striking the balance
Drug development currently does not reflect the global burden of disease.3 Industry’s links with patient groups can have their questionable side.4 And drug marketing can negatively influence prescribing.2
Industry and the medical profession share the blame for such problems and industry’s current contribution to improving health
and saving lives should not be undervalued. Balanced, objective teaching is vital if we want students to uphold critical,
evidence based practise and maintain their patient’s trust. Better models of how to deliver teaching exist: they should be
used.5
David A Biles, final year medical student, University of Bristol Medical School, Bristol BS2 8DZ
Competing interests: None declared.
Let us protest loudly
A growing literature suggests contact between healthcare providers and pharmaceutical companies leads to irrational prescribing2 6 and to the provision of biased or inaccurate information,7 8 with inaccuracies favouring the products of the company.7 8
If we know that most doctors fail to spot misinformation provided by pharmaceutical company employees,7 8 can we expect medical students to fare any better?
If budgets do not allow for independent academics and clinicians to give comprehensive teaching in pharmacology then let us
protest loudly rather than resorting to unacceptable alternatives.
Tom Yates, final year medical student, University College London Medical School, London WC1E 6BT; Gordon Stewart, professor of experimental medicine, University College London; John S Yudkin, emeritus professor of medicine, University College London; John Yates, emeritus professor of medical genetics, University of Cambridge; Sir Alexander Macara, chairman of council, BMA, 1993-1998
Competing interests: All the authors are or have been medical students. Some teach or have taught medical students.
A different perspective
I am concerned that medical students are getting this kind of exposure at my university, but I don’t feel that it is to the
extent suggested in the article. A maximum of 10 students a year can undertake the module for one afternoon a week over a
period of eight weeks in the third year.
It is unlikely that Brighton and Sussex Medical School is “filling the therapeutics void” with this module. The school does
not have its own clinical pharmacology department, and although some students think that this aspect of teaching could be
increased, all our pharmacology teaching is provided by the school of pharmacy at Brighton University, as part of a series
of lectures given in the third year.
However, I am grateful that the article has raised the matter because I think it is one that needs to be monitored closely.
Guidelines exist with regards to interactions between doctors and large drug companies in this country, but too often medical
students, who may often be more impressionable, are overlooked in this area.
Raphael Rogans-Watson, fourth year medical student, Brighton and Sussex Medical School
Competing interests: I am a fourth year student at Brighton and Sussex Medical School. I have not taken the student selected
component in question.
See “Should drug industry staff teach students?” http://student.bmj.com/issues/09/03/news/84.php.
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- Wazana A. Physicians and the pharmaceutical industry: is a gift ever just a gift? JAMA 2000;283:373-80.
- O’Neale Roach J. Research does not reflect global disease burden. BMJ 2000;320;1228.
- Moynihan R, Heath I, Henry D. Selling sickness: the pharmaceutical industry and disease mongering. BMJ 2002;324:886-91.
- Black H. Dealing with drugs. Lancet 2006;364:1655-6.
- Lexchin J. Interactions between physicians and the pharmaceutical industry: what does the literature say? CAMJ 1993;149:1401-7.
- Lexchin J. What information do physicians receive from pharmaceutical representatives? Can Fam Physician 1997;43:941-5.
- Ziegler MG, Lew P, Singer BC. The accuracy of drug information from pharmaceutical sales representatives. JAMA 1995;273:1296-8.
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Should drug industry staff teach students?
(Rebecca Coombes, March 2009)
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Aitzaz Bin Sultan Rai, Umar Tariq, Saima Amin Mughal, Sara Bughio (March 6th, 2009)
Medical Officer, Allied Hospital Faisalabad
aitzaz_rai@hotmail.com
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This development is Worrisome In the sense that there is strong campaign (and quite rightly so) in medical circles to decrease the contact between medics(especially in the initial stages of their career) and the pharmaceutical industry to keep transparency in medical prescribing and avoid irrational prescribing. Quite obviously, The Students who are taught some modules by a specific company are more likely to prefer drugs manufactures by that particular pharmaceutical company. If a pharmaceutical company, is not accepting the course fee from the medical school, its a "wise investment" on their part. They would earn many times that course fee when those medical students pass out and prescribe drugs of that manufacturer. And We have no doubts in claiming that its our "patients" who are paying for these modules just like they pay for the pizzas we eat in company sponsored lunches across the globe.
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Should drug industry staff teach students?
(Rebecca Coombes, March 2009)
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Paul Zeun (March 9th, 2009)
Intercalating in pharmacological sicences, Brighton & Sussex Medical School
p.d.zeun@bsms.ac.uk
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I read the article "Should drug industry staff teach students" with great interest having just completed the module in question with Pfizer in December. Although you can take the module as an student selected component (SSC) in year 3, I took it as a module for my intercalated degree in pharmacological sciences.
I would first like to repeat that this module is not concerned with core pharmacology teaching. BSMS delivers its clinical pharmacology teaching through its own therapeutics department in conjunction with the University of Brighton's pharmacy department. This module is simply a SSC that teaches students about the process of drug discovery and drug development.
Since completing the module, I have a heightened awareness of the many misconceptions medical students have regarding drug development and the pharmaceutical industry. This cannot be a good thing. Further, knowledge of drug discovery and development processes is extremely relevant for any graduating doctor. Whatever specialty one ends up in, there will always be new drugs coming through onto the market. An understanding of the process a candidate drug has gone through to get to phase III or the market is required in order for the clinician to critically appraise the drug and make a judgement on the risk/benefit of that drug to a patient.
Finally, the relationship between clinicians and the pharmaceutical industry should be one of respect and understanding of each other's roles, in order to best serve our population. Thus I believe it would be counterproductive to ban interaction between pharmaceutical companies and students. Doctors commonly interact with pharmaceutical companies and must be able to critically appraise their products, irrespective of which company supplies them.
As an SSC, this module's purpose is to provide undergraduates with the science and logistics behind drug discovery and development, whist providing an opportunity for students to explore any existing interest in pharmaceutical medicine. To this end, it satisfies the Tomorrows Doctors criteria for SSCs in the undergraduate curriculum. I thoroughly enjoyed this module and learnt a great deal which I have no doubt will assist me as a doctor. I believe similar themed SSCs should be made available at all medical schools.
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Should drug industry staff teach students?
(Rebecca Coombes, March 2009)
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Dr Adedayo Osholowu (March 14th, 2009)
Primary Care Sports physician, Nigeria
d.osholowu@yahoo.com
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I realise that medical training in this age has to develop new models of financing training. The importance of clinical pharmacology for medcal training cannot be over emphasised. The participation of the drug industry is a welcome innovation but as with all innovations that matter, there wil be mistakes. Let us anticipate these mistakes and welcome this development.
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